from mississippi, who, of course, is a friend of mine. and he said, i need guardsmen. can you send me guardsmen? pennsylvania had, you know, no nickel on that dime. we're thousands -- hundreds of miles away from the gulf, but we have 20,000 guardsmen, and i activated 2,100 and sent them down to mississippi and to louisiana, and the interesting thing, chris, is i got tons of letters citizens of those states thanking me, but i also got letters from my own guardsmen, who said it was the best thing they've done since they've been in the national guard, to help americans from another area of the country who are suffering. and that's the spirit that takes over, and it's, as you said, what makes us a special place. >> well, that's why people like you and they like haley barbour, thank you, governor rendell, and thank you, david corn. you never get to be a governor, you don't get to know what that's like. and for the latest on the devastation on the jersey shore, we turn to ron allen, who's at point pleasant. ron, i was feeling for you the other night. you're in the -- you were on that phone.